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Queer Eye for the Straight Guy

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual

If the page didn't appear on Bravo's website I'd think this a hoax.

I love stereotypical gay men. Emmett is the QAF character I'd most like to date. But commodifying qay sensibility, even if it is the imaginary sophistication of urban gay men is a tad offputting.

Each week their mission is to transform a style-deficient and culture-deprived straight man from drab to fab in each of their respective categories: fashion, food and wine, interior design, grooming and culture.

The programs that follow in the success of QAF and Will & Grace will give us a chance that we can be just as dumb and dull as the hetero majority. Oh well, beats homophobia.

What do you think?

Queer Eye for the Straigt Guy

See also: Boy Meets Boy and gay assimilation.

I say: Queer black eye, boy defeats boy

The reception to QEftSG: Straight women love queers.

The unwanted queer guy.

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Oh? Smells like homophobia to me!
Could they seriously be any more stereotypical of the gay community? Not all of us our self-loathing, skinny, "cultured", silly faggots. I mean, MY GOD, how many negative images (Jack on W&G, All of QAF) can they throw our way and still have us eating out of their hands. This show looks like yet another slap accross the face from the "straight community!"
I can't wait for the first show. It's going to be so good. It's about time they made something for our kind to watch. We need more selections though, we can't just stop here. I think we should have our own gay channel. Finally the sodomy laws are relaxing & we can be more open with our feelings without fear of persecution from heteros. One day we will be excepeted just like everybody else & not have to hide behind fake girlfriends or pretend to be something we are not. Live long and prosper my fellow men.
Sweet Jesus my temperature is rising. Ted & I are just going to ravage each others love canal during this spectacular event. Lovee Lovee Long Time. Cya
I think this show is so great! These 'Fab 5' made my mouth open with their spontaneous make-overs; such a difference! No I'm not gay, but hey, their taste in clothes, fashion and interior is pretty good. This is a breakthrough for tv to have homosexuals have the spotlight and I think there is nothing wrong with that. This kind of variety is great to watch. Go Carson! And yay for the others! :)
I am a gay man who enjoys seeing gay themed material but I have to say this show was horrible. I could only sit through a half hour before I changed channels. I expected a little more out of Bravo. Wayne
I think that the show demonstrates that it is possible for straight men to get along with gay men! Yes the FAB 5 are a little wild....but what's the point of a straight man with a gay man they don't know is gay...this way, if they can accept an openly out gay man, he can accept those he works with and interacts with daily!!! YOU GO GIRLS!!
Friends, /Queer Eye/ is a total mess. The show's very premise, that style comes with queerness and vice versa, doesn't do us any favors. I know plenty of queers who can't dress, and I know plenty of hetero people who /can/ -- so why not just have a team of five /people/ perform the makeover? Why does it have to be "gay" people and a "straight" guy? Would they hire lesbians to make over a woman? Worse, the show argues that straight people /need/ queer style in order to be worth anything in an increasingly queer world. True, four of the Fab Five were friendly, like good folk who were offering their talents, and I appreciated that and would probably watch. But the fifth, the fashion fellow, was awful. He kicked off the show by insulting the straight guy's apartment and even his art -- some of which was really very good -- and then, inexcusably, violated the guy's underwear drawer and commented for the camera. He broke the cardinal rule of civil behavior: he made Butch uncomfortable. A good makeover works /with/ the subject to find a style that suits his tastes and makes him happy; denigrating everything the subject likes is a terrible place to start. (The fashion guy proceeded to make crass gay jokes throughout the show, many of which were also lame.) MTV did far more for gay visibility with /Dismissed/: it mixed same-sex and opp-sex couples (1) in a context in which sexual orientation was really relevant and (2) without trumpeting its progressiveness. Bravo's drawing an artificial link between style and queerity isn't doing anyone any favors. I'm afraid /Boy Meets Boy/ will be even sicker. Bravo was a lot more gay-friendly (/Cirque/, /The It Factor/, /Actor's Studio/...) before it "came out", no?
Acceptance by mass media means gay people become pop culture commodities like everyone else. If you don't like it, don't watch it. If you hate it, tell Bravo.
My husband and I LOVED this show. We couldn't get enough of it. We couldn't believe the transformations. Did they really do it all in one day? It doesn't matter. The show was fun and we enjoyed ourselves.
My husband and I LOVED this show. We couldn't get enough of it. We couldn't believe the transformations. Did they really do it all in one day? It doesn't matter. The show was fun and we enjoyed ourselves.
I LOVED THE SHOW>...I WAS CRACKIN UP..THESE 5 GUYS ARE AWESOME..I HAVE A QUICK ? ON THE EPISODE WHERE THEY GAVE ADAM (UNIBROW) A MAKEOVER..WHAT KIND OF SHAVING OIL DID THEY USE?? IWANT TO GET IT FOR MY HUSBAND??
as a gay man living in in a posh home i just have o to say "LIGHTEN UP Queers" the Fab5 are great and have done some incredible makeovers
I am a straight, married woman with three children and I just LOVED this show! There are so many men (and women) out there who could use the help the Fab 5 provide. They will certainly never want for subjects! Just come to the midwest where I live if you really want a challenge! I laughed through both episodes and have watched them almost every night since they first aired. Keep up the good work! I really love Carson! You are all wonderful and I can't wait to see more! We are not all homophobic!
Hey...I've been watchin Queer Eye, and i just gotta say, i absolutely love the guy in charge of culture, unfortunately i dont know his name...he's adorable though, just the cutest thing i've seen!
I've been watchin Queer Eye...and i just have to say i love it, and i think the guy in charge of culture, is just adorably the cutest thing i've ever seen!!
I've been watching and I think it's wonderful. It's funny and good-hearted. I get misty every time I watch. I can't think of any other shows where people are just helping someone else achieve a goal that's really important to them, helping out just because they can. It's sweet and fun. The gay men are each very good at what they do, unlike on daytime talk shows where the victims look worse after the makeover than they did to start. Despite the joking and wise-cracking, they managed to be genuinely nice and you can tell when they watch the straight guy at the end of the show that they are all really rooting for these guys to get whatever they wanted out of it and feel better and more confident about their lives. It goes beyond just fashion. I also agree it's showing that hetero and gay guys can get along and just be normal and laugh together and this country really needs that. It's awesome. It's the best new TV show I've seen in a long time. PS The skin care line was called ZIHR.
This show is ridiculous. I am straight; there is no way in hell I would agree to this. If these guys want to come in and help me with their given expertise that is one thing. But, to for them to assume that it is ok to be making some of the comments they do, or to be touching and feeling the way they do is not something that I would go along with. In the hetero world one person is not allowed to touch another or make innuendos the way that these guys are being allowed to get away with. I think they are taking advantage of the person’s kindness and desire to not be labeled as homophobic. If I am not attracted to a person I do not want them touching me in certain ways, it is just way to familiar. I do not care if that person is male or female. If I tell a female that I do not like the way they are touching me it is understood without judgment. If I were to have the same reaction with a gay man touching me the reason for my discomfort must automatically be homophobia rather than I simply do not care for that sort of familiarity with someone I am not attracted to. I do not have really any problem with most of the cast members; the one I am speaking of more than any other is the fashion guy. His comments and touchy feely way would cause the show to take a different twist if I were the one on the spot. He would be told in no uncertain terms that that sort of behavior was not welcome and would cease. I would have no problem working with these men in a professional sense. They can come and give me advice based upon their expertise, but be professional. It makes no difference if they are hetro-, homo- or bi- sexual. If the person were a professional then I would take their advice. But I do not have to put up with behavior that is unwanted and unrelated to the discipline in which they are experts.
My daughter and I thought the show was absolutely FABULOUS!! The comments made by the makeover crew kept the show upbeat. They respectfully transform the appearance of the homes and bodies of men in need and we think it's a smart concept for a show. Keep up the good work; we'll keep watching!!
On the show: I enjoy it. I like that the 5 people have distinct personalities and that they don't all have stereotypical personas. While I think Carson ("fashion"), did get a little over the top in some of his comments, I don't think he made the gentleman overly nervous -- I was watching for that. I also thought all the team was careful to 'work with the style' of the person they were making over, not just creating a look the person would be uncomfortable with (vs. 'What Not to Wear' - talk about mean comments!). And to 'wanderer', who claims: "In the hetero world one person is not allowed to touch another or make innuendos the way that these guys are being allowed to get away with. " That may be true in your world. It is not the case in the "hetero world". Try looking at other cultures -- Latin, Mediterranean, European: most of them are more affectionate than the stereotypical white bread American. But, for some of us, the touchy-feely stuff does spill over from other cultures into our own, American, hetero worlds. My fifteen cents.
Acutally it was I, BD, who made the "hetero world" comment and I stand by it, but I also agree with your comment on the comfort space of other countries being different than the comfort space in the States. However, when you are in a foreign culture it is considered polite to understand what is accepted and what is not. Maybe in Carson's world it is ok to act in such a way, but he needs to show respect for the client and do what is comfortable for the client, not what is comfortable or desirable for himself. He is very rude and very unprofessional.
Well, I have to say, as a straight man, I think this show rocks. I disagree about the comments made about Carson (I think) being unprofessional. He's a New Yorker, he's doing this off the cuff. These straight guys didn't hire some team to come into their lives and change them, they were chosen for a TELEVISION SHOW. They're not "clients," they're "victims," just like on any other reality show. The difference is that these fellows, the Fab 5 -- smart, cultured, passionate fellows -- are not setting out to make a fool of a different person every week, they're there to help them improve their look, their environment, and their self-respect. So, if it can be accepted that these guys are coming around to do some good in the world, then any of them should be able to say anything they want. They're having fun with it, let 'em. People sometimes need to be shaken, and a good jibing can do that. I personally love seeing the straight guys deal with the sexual underpinings, and I think that this show has the possibility to really make a dent in the homophobic nature of America. My personal favorite thing about this show is that the Fab 5 are unabashedly homosexual without being purposefully flamboyant, or prissy, or anything -- they're just being themselves. They're just a bunch of men with a great attitude, IMO. I welcome the Fab 5, and I hope this series has a long, happy . . . let's make that a long, gay run.
I just think this is such a fun show! So the Fab 5 are gay...so what? They have style and they can communicate it well and quickly. They're funny, incredibly optimistic (I mean, when they first encounter the straight guy challenge du jour, how can they keep from turning right around and leaving those slobs in their squalor?), and by the end of the show, you sense they really care about the success of the straight guy's makeover objective. I've seen the first three shows, and, to me, the first one was the best!! The makeover and art show had life-changing implications for Butch. Who could watch that and not get misty-eyed. It was great, great, great television. And remember, these straight guys volunteered, even contended for, an opportunity to be the makeover candidate, knowing full well that the Fab 5 were going to do it. And knowing, one would think, that there was going to be some 'over-the-top' commentary and actions. Did anyone doubt there would be gay innuendo? So Carson made fun of the guy's slobbiness. So Carson made jokes about unzipping the guy's pants. Puh-leeeze. Even Butch laughed at that. If it didn't bother him, why should it bother you? This is a wonderful show. No one gets hurt. Some people get helped. And we have fun watching. I'm just sorry there are only 8 episodes. However, I think that the quality would suffer if Bravo tried to produce 20 of these in a year. Maybe they'll do it like British TV and limit it to 8 a year, but keep the show in production year after year.
Just another cog in the "what is beautiful, what is not", "this is how you should think and look" Brain Washing Machine! Don't know why I expected anything different. It IS Television afterall ;) Some things never change.
I am a straight married woman with 4 kids. I LOVE the Fab Five. They appeared to be beautiful and witty and intelligent and exceedingly self confident. LOVED IT! Their personalities ran the gamut from the more stereotypical (Carson) to the least stereotypical (forgot his name ... the interior designer). Trust me -- I am an African American and so I know a bit about fear of stereotypes and tokenism -- this will be a great thing for the gay community. Straight people are not laughing at the Fab Five, we are laughing at ourselves.
Oh my goodness! I am a strictly heterosexual female that happen to stumble across their show last week. I am now COMPLETELY HOOKEED! I love those guys and I think they bring such energy and sassiness to the shows guests. I wish to GOD that I could one day meet them and hang out with them. I think the FAB 5 ADD THE SPICE TO LIFE!
1) can webmaster put
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 2) JOSH F. wrote: "I think we should have our own gay channel."
 PrideVision is available in Canada and is "coming out soon across the USA". from http://www.pridevisiontv.com/p/usa.asp

3) Lissette at July 17, 2003 12:52 PM
"why not just have a team of five /people/ perform the makeover?"
 3a) because it's already been done?
 3B) because mix adds sexual tension ? (or is that sexual underpinnings?)

truly, EF
                              
I attributed to “why not just have a team of five /people/ perform the makeover?” to Lissette, but in reality it was by Queer Who Does Have Some Style. sorry.
Okay, I think the show has it's goodies and baddies. Of course, many gay dudes are still wearing their Grateful Dead Ts, slopping around on a Saturday night, never go to the gym, and can only think of pizza for dinner. Stereotypes in general are not good, but damn they can be fun, esp. when you realize what they are and how they are wrong. And maybe, are right on. For instance, I have friends that totally live up all the gay stereotypes fearlessly (think pink sparkly "I kiss boys" t's) and others who think it is just one aspect of their personalities not something to flaunt, as if a hetero would flaunt their heteroness. (Although, I usually counter them with the plenty who do, "pimps," "playas," chick who love that they work at Hooters, any girl on Girls Gone Wild and "big men on campus" strain of movies.) If people get sqirmy because Carson tells a subject he can "feel free to makeout with [him]" why aren't they up in arms at the RAMPANT heterosexuality, think Shipmates, Fifth Wheels, other crappy reality dating shows. First off, they didn't pick up any gay guys assuming all gay men are fashion forward. These guys have creditials, granted they are missing a florist, they are "typical" in their concerns. This is a double edged sword, it shows that finally straight men and gay men can break bread but that again, gay men must not be manly, dirty, messy, sport watching types or that there are actually straight men who enjoy shopping at Pier 1 and dress to the nines. The real question is can one bear a touch of stereotype for the gently loosening barriers being broken down? Look how many black women it took to act in the role of maids or welfare moms to have one finally win an Oscar? Hmmm, and she was playing another welfare mom.
Just wanted to say that I am a 38 year old married woman, and I LOVE THE FAB FIVE!!! I think they do a phenomenal job of helping the straight guy in question remake himself in order to bring out his best qualities without losing sight of his true personality, his likes and dislikes. To be able to help him without losing sight of that takes talent, and the Fab Five have that in abundance! As far as any jokes are concerned, I have yet to see any of the "straight" guys look or seem uncomfortable. The best part of the whole show, in my humble opinion, is when they watch Mr. Straight Guy onscreen to see how well he does after they have worked their magic for him. It really does seem that they are hoping for the best outcome and that they're genuinely happy when all turns out well. Isn't that supposed to be the spirit behind the whole idea, anyway??? Hello! Basically, what comes across to me is that these are five truly gifted individuals who derive happiness from taking "diamonds in the rough" and doing the work necessary to help them shine. Personally, I think it's something the world needs more of, now more than ever!!!
I am so moved by this show. Traditionally, striaght and gay men have had the widest gulf between them and this show suggests that that gulf can be bridged. I am baffled by the gays who scream "stereotypes." Being "cultured" is not "self-loathing" as someone suggested here. As gay men, we have always been at the center of aesthetics and culture in this country and the world. If it weren't for us, there would not be a hollywood, a Broadway, or any art, music, or literature. That is our legacy and our gift. I would hardly call that self-loathing. I love the fab five....
I watched your show for the 1st time tonight. It was awesome. You're not the Fab Five.......you're the FANTABULOUS FIVE.........such talent!! I would love you to give my hubby a new "makeover" Good Luck in your new show!
I love this show. I have watched four episodes and it is upbeat, zany and heartfelt. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy is a positive view of gay guys. Some people say it might be campy but in our community there are different types of gay people. Each gay person on the show has a different personality. Campy gays like Carson are fun and zany. Plus Zyan is not campy but cool. I love this show and the Fab 5 don't try to change the straight guys style but try to help them accent their own style to help them out. QE4SG shows that gay and straight males can bond and be relaxed around each other. That gay males and straight guys have fun together and can learn from each other. The show has heart and it pure fun. That gay guys and straight guys can have a great time together without feeling ackward. The show is a winner in this gay persons view. SOME GAY PEOPLE ON HERE NEED TO LIGHTEN UP...There are different types of Gay people out there. Don't tell me that several of my fellow gays on here have never met 'Carson's. Besides Zyan, Thom and the food and wine gay are not 'screaming queens'. You gay who are blasting this show should get over your hypocitical, self loathing, high and mighty selfs and realize that we gay people are as varied as the rainbow. Your the same types who are just has homopobic as the religious right...yes we have people like Carson...and I LOVE THEM. Because they are not a bunch of up-tight self loathing gays. They are comfortable being themselves and having fun with life. Maybe some of my gay up-tight brothers and sisters need to quit hating on those who want to act and be zany and crazy like Carson.
I LOVED the show, especially Carson and now I will Never watch it again because of what went on in the "Cowboy's" bedroom!!! (Last nights episode.) The fab. 5 were asked not to uncover the bed and they did anyway! That scene should have been cut out! My excitment for last nights show turned into disgust!! The "client" I'm sure, will be embarrassed and humiliated for-ever!!! There are boundaries when it comes to a person's dignity. THEY NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE BEFORE THEIR NEXT SHOW! He was obviously embarrassed and I am deeply saddenned thinking about how he must have felt!!
Some of you really need to lighten up. This is the best show I think that is on TV right now. The Fab 5 make the makeover experience a blast with their upbeat style and encouragement. Gosh...I love this show especially with comments from Carson such as: "call 1-800-alarm me, you've turned the crack den into a living room!" "God, I need a giant ridilin smoothie so I can concentrate on this disaster!" "There's a hooker from Trenton who wants her shoes back!" "she wants him so bad she cant even see straight..." "and when shes not driving big rigs Lisa enjoys..." "fear is the greatest motivator" "the old Tom never put poison on your fish" etc... All of you have to admit that these 5 do a fantastic job wherever they go. They enjoy making people's lives a little bit better as they say "one straight man at a time", and I think it is a huge step for television to be airing this. Some of you may think that this is disgusting, look at the new show Boy Meets Boy...which would you rather be watching? All in all this is a great show, funny as hell...
Azulene As a gay woman I just love your show keep up the great work.
I would like to point out that this show is not for gay people. This show is meant for heterosexual woman that want to change men. It's the woman's fantasy to change everything about a man. Besides the fact, I believe this show is another male bashing show on television. Like what one person said, 'What can I expect? It's television'
It's hard to express my utter disgust for the people in this world who's mission is to say bad things about everything. This show, although a bit outrageous at times, (which is why I love it) has to be a little out there people because it wants ratings. If it was dull and the gay guys did what the "straight" guys wanted..there wouldn't be conflict and it wouldn't be fun. If I wanted to watch simple makeover shows I would watch HGTV instead of this show. I personally love the show. You people, that have taken the time to only write negative comments need to find something better to do with your time. Maybe the guys shouldn't do and say some things they do on the air. Well.....watch the Simpsons, or Roseanne, or beavis and Butthead...those shows were fairly outrageous at their beginnings. You straight men, who are completely afraid of gay men need to lighten up. Go watch the Man Show because I can guarantee that they say things on that show..and do things....that turn my stomach. Any show that degrades women or minorities makes me sense and it uncalled for. This is a decorating show folks. If you don't like it, you are going to have to deal with it.....sorry.....I have to flip past those stupid commercials "Girls Gone Wild." Although I do realize that these girls have to be willing to degrade themselves. Lighten up straights! Queers are here, have always been here, and will always be here. This is our time!!
QE is am absolute blast! My wife and I love it -- its the funniest thing on TV. Sure the Fab five take pokes at the "victim" but the producers appear to pick stright men that know how to take a ribbing and really appreciate the help. Sure the show puts the Fab 5 in a stereotype light but these guys were selected because they are funny as hell and at the same time show that they really care about their charge.
I think some folks need to get over themselves and the self importance of the gay community. It is TV, so what. Not even that good of TV but some folks have worked themselves into a froth of how it portrays homosexuals. A smash hit on Bravo consists of what, one rating point? Not reaching that many people. I just don't think it is even worth putting any energy into.
I read most of the comments and understand people's opinions about the negative aspects and stereotypes that are displayed on the show. However, I thought it was a good cross-section amongst the Fab 5. Between the guy that gives advice on hair (quiet and classy), the guy that shows you how to cook (bookish and composed), the guy that decorates the apt. (understated), the guy that gives advice on clothes (vampy and full of quips)...isn't that a varied display of personalities that represent the gay community? I love the show because there are no program formats that show men how to groom themselves, how to entertain, and how to keep their fricking apartments clean! (Did you see that episode with the long-haired guy whose entire apt. was completely trashed?! He was disgusting. Don't get me started on his witchy girlfriend!) I think, if anything, that it shows that straight men are fuzzy-brained, skin-crawl inducing pigs that need to be led around by someone else, be it gay man or their girlfriend/wife. Christina
This show is the saddest thing i have seen come on TV in the LONGEST TIME. it does nothing but further promote all the stereotypes that people already havey about gay people, that the are SKINNY, FLAMING, DESIGNER DRESSING, MATERIALISTIC, MEAN, FAGS. and that is not true at all, most gay people are entirely 'normal' (although i dont like to use that word, i just will for convenience sake) but just happen to like people of the same sex. You would think that they gay community would demand and have the balls to ask for more variety in how they are portrayed in the media and on TV, but i guess not. This show, BOY MEETS BOY, damn QUEER AS FOLK are not REAL AT ALL! and i am sorry, but if there was TV when women were trying to get the right to vote, and the only time you saw women on TV they were in the kitchen, or having kids, or baking, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PISSED, and WE SHOULD BE UPSET. This illusion that people have that somehow this will make people accept gay people more, is false. it only makes the stereotype that most straight people and homophobes, keep, seem far more real, and they are all far less likely to accept gay people. This is just the latest in a string of shows that do nothing but promote this new 'marketed gay lifestyle' of skinny boys, designer clothes, and mean little queens. and no, i am not a homophobe, i am not realigious, i am just gay with a mind. and i would like to see a little something with a bit more originality and personality. This show required no thinking up at all, and is as UN-REALISTIC as all the other REALITY SHOWS. But this also stems from my belief that the entire media and enterainment network has lost all conscience and taste in what they produce, and simply put whatever out there will make the most money, and i suppose we cannot blame them, it is a business after all. But we can STILL critisize, and DEMAND they at least TRY to change
Could someone please tell me WHY Cirqu and Actor's Studio is considered "gay"? I saw someone comment above about the two being "gay" television. I'm confused as to how and why. By the way....another straight female here that loves and adores QE. I would love to see them do over several of my guy friends! And as for Carson being "mean"...please. That guy from What Not To Wear is as cruel as you can get! Carson's a puppy in comparison.
I'm noticing a trend in the postings: straight people love this show, and gay people don't seem as pleased. I find this really interesting. I'm a straight lady, and I really love the show. I think it's sweet how these talented men share their gifts with those who feel that better grooming, etc will help them in certain areas of their lives. Here's a thought: I'm not telling any of the gay people in our communities how they should feel about the show, but one of the concerns I'm seeing repeatedly is that the show perpetuates stereotypes. The thing about positive stereotypes is they're confining and they paint only one picture of a certain group. However, that said, there is usually an element of truth to many positive stereoptypes. Why this is so is a mystery, but anyone who fails to note that a lot of pro-basketball players are black, or that many gay men enjoy a refined life style either don't follow sports or don't know many gay men. The fact remains, these are real, live gay men who have become successful in the professions they've chosen. It's not like Bravo went out and picked up some people from the street and told them to act a certain way. It seems unfair to the fab five to call them stereotypes when they are just doing a job. One fact that I hope will be cheering is that the audience of this show aren't going to be homophobes with no clue about gay people. We are friends and roommates of gay people, and we know that they don't all wear Polo or cook with truffle oil. Just the rich, professional ones. Those who would misconstrue the show probably wouldn't be interested in it to start with. I don't know, if my orientation group were somehow affiliated with one of the freshest, most entertaining, least mean spirited reality shows on tv, I think I'd be kind of pleased. I don't think a "Jews help you with your homework" show would be as popular somehow. A closing note, I initially thought Carson was too over the top, but as I watched him, it became evident that he really the bulk of the people whom he gives makeovers, and his sharp tongue masks a real softie. I bet he feeds stray cats in a beat-up bathrobe on his days off.
The show is great. I am a gay man. For the gays that HATE the show, you are probable one of those gay men that have a complaint about everything. Especially when it comes to shows dealing with gay men. My only regret is that they don't offer gay men the same chance. My gay card has been revoked because I was born without a good housekeeping and style gene!!! WISH THEY WOULD HELP ME OUT!!!
Forgot to add this...to Christina, who posted above this post and is SO PISSED OFF AND THINKS IT STEROTYPES GAYS? You are yet ANOTHER pissy person that takes life allllll to seriously. Girl, give it a break. Find a new life, or hide with the one you have! I would be afraid to ask what, on any tv show, you would consider done right? Your angry girl...take a breath, your not comfortable with yourself. These guys are nice guy and that IS the way they are. I'd rather see some fun than your anger. And if people think that EVERYONE that is gay is the way they are, well...then they shouldn't watch any TV, Movies, Soap Operas, Theater at all. It's supposed to be entertainment honey, and at the same time they do something NICE for someone. Do you know what nice is????? If your not entertained, and I really don't think you could ever BE entertained. Then go to bed girl....and with your attitude, it will most likely be to bed alone...
Here is a theory for those who are upset by the show to consider... It seems to me that QE fits into a general pattern that seems to occur when mainstream culture is attempting to come to terms with a subgroup of people who are different. I think you can compare what's happening now with portrayal of gays in the media to the course of Jewish portrayals. First they are vilified, and seen as totally "other," like for instance in the past when every serial killer or scary, monstrous character was revealed to be gay, mostly in the 1970s. For Jews this period came much earlier, in the silent cinema. Once the fear of the other is expressed through portrayals like these, there tends to be a "noble savage" period, where you get something like "Gentlemen's Agreement" for Jews, or gay martyrdom AIDS flicks. I think QE is exemplary of the next stage, comprable to the "Jewsploitation" of the 1970s, where Woody Allen and Elliot Gould were big stars. This stage consists of a popular facination with the stereotype, and the participation of the out-group in the "performance" of the stereotype for the entertainment of the mainstream. I believe that the effect of this stage is to desenstize the mainstream to the stereotype, making it lose its power, and opening up the field {FINALLY} to more varied portrayals of members of the outgroup, who can then be looked at with sympathy, not fear or ridicule. On the Jewish timeline, think Ben Stiller in Meet the Parents, where it was a Jewish character that a mass audience was meant to identify with, and judging by the box office, did. So hang in there gay dudes
omg i love the fab 5 they are so cool and not to mention they have great taste. they work so well together! all you people saying they are rude and unprofessional i would say your wrong they are making Constructive Critisism. and really helping these guys out. so to fab five you guys kick bum keep up the frantastic work!carson I LOVE YA
Holy Snack Packs! This show is mindblowing (and in a very good way). I love it! I have never had this much fun watching the show. As for all the negative comments... well, i think some people are just a tad bit insecure. I think Carson is unbelievably funny! And Kyan is such a goodlooking guy. The other guys are ok too. They seem a but quieter and calmer. The culture guy...Jai, i think. He is the most alorable guy I have ever seen! I hope this show keeps it up. it's doing a great job so far! Nai
I can't believe it! This show totally makes me cry. The way these guys all are pulling for the straight guy to succeed. And then the straight guy turns around and is so appreciative of the Fabulous Five. I think some much needed messages are being sent here. Sometimes our 'United' States are just so filled with separatism. Communion and openness is such a great state...enables one to feel--yeah even cry! Think that's the best and most fulfilling way to make use of the physical life. PLUS--you might pick up a great recipe from the show!
Ok, lighten up folks - it's a TV show, nothing more or less. It's entertainment, and shockingly enough, it entertains. There are all kinds of gay people in this world and the QEFTSG show gives people a a glimpse of one segment. Gay people do not have to be one thing or anything - we can be any way we choose to be. I for one am not going to be ashamed or hide the fact that yes, I do have better fashion sense than most straight men because someone might think it's a stereotype. If you want to be angry about something that is actually hurtful, might I suggest being angry with the President of the United States who publicly states he wishes to change the United States constitution to limit one group's civil rights?
Well put Stark. I think a lot of people overlook the simple facts of how 'minority groups' for lack of a better term are finally brought into the main stream of media. You're description was very accurate. It's taken a great deal of time to get where we are; where woman aren't painted as noire vamps or simpering wimps, where african americans aren't all depicted as servants or criminals, where every latin american isn't made to look like a gang member or maid, and where every gay man isn't shown as a screaming queen or a serial killer. Sure those images still exist, but they're not exclusive anymore. And as has been said on here before, stereotypes exist for a reason. They are overgeneralizations based on some level of fact. Sure, some men are very nurturing and some women aren't, but can anyone really deny that women are more so by nature? Of course there are strong women and weak men, but it would be stupid to pretend that in general the average man isn't physically stronger than the average women. Of course not every jewish man is good at math and finances, but those of you living in New York, Boston, Philadelphia...how many jewish MBAs do you know? Of course perpetuating stereotypes isn't a good thing, but ignoring the facts behind them doesn't make them go away. And acting as if every person who actually resembles the stereotype is doing a bad thing, well that's just insane. You're basically saying that, not only should an effeminate gay man hide his sexuality, he should hide his very personality from the world too. And as for the person living in the "Hetero-word" where is that place cause I can't find it on the map. I've had grandmothers in grocery stores put an arm around me and call me sweetie when I've just met them. My sisters friend drapes herself over people whenever she feels like it. And I've known men who's idea of friendly flirting (the kind not intended to elicit a date) is to say stuff like "Just how many kamikaze's do I need to give you before you forget your engaged?" (that was of course back when I was engaged). QE is a show about making over terminally unkempt men who happen to be straight by 5 talented professionals who happen to be gay. It's a gimmick which ads fun and comic relief to the show. That's something every new show really needs if it wants to compete. It's not supposed to be a documentary into the reality of gay men. You might as well say The Birdcage is supposed to be a depiction of an average gay family. It's not, unless every gay family also lives above a drag club they own and perform at. Did anyone hear straight senators complaining they're not all old fashioned candy-addicted prudes? Let the guys be who they are, and do what they do best, because QE really is a great show where it looks like the particpants are having as much fun as the viewers.
I have to admit that I myself am just a little bit in love with the Fab 5. Honestly, I don't understand how some folks have gotten so venemously upset at the show and other individuals; and then again, I can't believe I took the time to read all of it! Frankly, while there are so many problems with the country and our culture, one of the really great things is that there is such a wide variety of people and opinions and at the end of the day we are all entitled to rail vehemently against the show, and we are all entitled to turn it off. Maybe it is designed to reduce homophobia, and maybe it's designed as a vehicle for product placement; but if even one homophobic dude has his horizons broadened, or someone gets the confidence to be themselves more; then maybe we could all just chill and let other people just be.
Sorry, but you won't see me or my family watching this. I don't hate homosexuals, but I can't stand the act of homosexuality. I think it is perverse, and although I'm not going to hate an individual, I also don't have to support the things they do. And for Network TV to plaster it all over TV like most stations are doing these days just makes me sick. The more I see on TV, the less I want me or my kids to watch it.
I love this show. I'm a female and wish they would make me over...smile. The Fab 5 is just the FAB-U-LOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Queer Eye is doing two things at once. On the one hand it is further stigmatizing gay men as superficial and silly. On the other hand it shows the compassion these five men have for our straight counterparts. Plus, our counterparts are shown as being welcoming rather than threatened by the fab five. Also, the straight men are being further stigmatized as dirty and clueless. So the show really is inclusive with its stereotyping. I think that some people will watch this show and have their homophobic stereotypes reinforced. I think that vast majority of people will watch this show and see five men that are happy and caring individuals.
I think Queer Eye is remarkable. Having known quite a few gay men in my life, I don't believe in this whole "stereotype" nonsense that is being thrown across this message board. I think each of the Fab 5 has his own personality. I've met guys who act more or less effiminate then each of these Fab 5, and I think that's the stereotype that's being thrown here. This show is very entertaining. That's what they're trying to do and they're doing an excellent job doing as such. So far reading these comments people either like it or they don't. So like any other show, if you don't enjoy it - don't watch it. Many shows are the stereotype, but we still watch them, yes? They're still getting good ratings. That's the goal here, to entertain us, and I'm being entertained. Why complain? I only wish I were a straight male so I could meet these talented and fun individuals. I look forward to their next episode.
I have been watching this site's comments from the start of QE and as a gay man I am embarassed by the comments made by 1/2 the gay men on here. This show is amazing....no this show is astoundingly amazing. Grow up and take a good hard look at yourselves before you start to cry homophobia in America...you may just be screaming at yourself.
I bet he feeds stray cats in a beat-up bathrobe on his days off. Posted by: Ruth on August 5, 2003 08:36 PM If I saw stray cats in a beat-up bathrobe I'd feed them too! Smile!
As an African American female, I love this show. Being especially sensitive to stereotypes, I believe that there is a broad spectrum of personality types featured. I appreciate the upbeat, over the top persona of Carson and the "calmer" inputs from the others. I will say, my initial intro to the show in which Butch was berated by the Fab 5 for the first 15 minutes made me cringe. Eventually, I got over it and found myself rooting for him in the end as he transformed himself from an ugly duckling to a swan. I WANT CARSON TO BE MY NEW BEST FRIEND!
I tend to view things as not sterotypical, but instead archetypal. All art, regardless of its medium, harkens back to the archetypes of the human soul. These archetypes are neither positive nor negative, they are neutral. How we choose to interpret them is when a connotation of good or bad is applied. Regardless of sexual orientation, race, creed, age, or gender, we each possess elements of these archetypes and I personally believe that we seek out the elements that are lacking in us. This can be done in many ways, not the least of which is association with another who strongly exhibit the traits we lack. This being said, QE or any television show, will never have any power that we don't allow it to have. Watch it or don't. Enjoy it or don't. It is what it is, and personally I thoroughly enjoy it. Just a thought.
I tend to view things as not sterotypical, but instead archetypal. All art, regardless of its medium, harkens back to the archetypes of the human soul. These archetypes are neither positive nor negative, they are neutral. How we choose to interpret them is when a connotation of good or bad is applied. Regardless of sexual orientation, race, creed, age, or gender, we each possess elements of these archetypes and I personally believe that we seek out the elements that are lacking in us. This can be done in many ways, not the least of which is association with another who strongly exhibit the traits we lack. This being said, QE or any television show, will never have any power that we don't allow it to have. Watch it or don't. Enjoy it or don't. It is what it is, and personally I thoroughly enjoy it. Just a thought.
Um. Yes. LIGHTEN up people! Don't over-analyze a meant-to-be-fun series! If you don't like some of the comments they make, then promptly click to another channel. I don't think that's too hard to do.
My wife was the first one in our family to watch this show and when I sat down to watch episode #2 with her I was amazed. I am a fifty year old sraight man,who still has some homophobic hangups that I am working to correct. My first thought when I finished watching this show was the high degree of compasion that all of these men had for there victim. Sure they have Carson to be the cut-up and make fun at the guy's expense and it only plays if one of the 5 is the clever comic relief. I have read the comments about gay stereotypes but have a look at the straight guys, they seem pretty stereotypical from my side of the human fence. I know lots of men just like them, and it doesn't bother me to see any of them getting a makeover. It this show enlightens and opens up some eyes to a clearer, more tolerent vision then it's done it's job, and that's always entertaining. dan holland
More anal than a go-go boy in a gay club's backroom!
Many of the criticisms on this page follow a line of logic that goes something like this: The 5 characters on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy are stereotypes and not representative of all gay men, and their mission to rescue straight men from fashion and cultural slovenliness is insulting because it assumes that gay men are savvy in the ways of taste and straight men are not. Well, the problem with that line of thought is that no matter what kind of gay or straight men are on a show, someone can always say,"But they're not ALL like that, so this show sucks." Lighten up. It's a fun show. A lot of straight guys DO need the help, (coming from a straight buy, btw) and looking at over-the-top gay characters in a positive and humorous light seems to me to be a good way to fight homophobia.
As a straight male who happens to have a competent sense of style, who's clean and well kept, who is not homophobic, I just want to say that I love this show. My advice to all the bitter people out there - KEEP YOUR POLITICS OUT OF ENTERTAINMENT! This show is smart and funny and accomplishes everything it was intended to accomplish and more. I think America is smart enough to know that the Fab 5 do not represent all gays and the poor saps they make over do not represent all heterosexual men. Lighten up and smile! Josh
As a gay man I have mixed feeling about the show Qftsg. On one hand, the show shows one aspect of the gay communitee and if people would look at it from a broader perspective including all stations on television, it demonstration and helps to balance the communitee's diversity. I agree more gay shows with a variation in theme need to be produced in order to fill that goal if it is the goal of most networks. On the other hand, as a Black gay man networks who make attempts at showing the gay community in positive situations always always fail to realize that gay people are diverse and never include people of any color except on token color and if its a "reality show" the person of color always is voted off. Has there ever been a show were a person of color is the desired quest for affection? I cant think of one of any color other than white. I don't see anyone getting bent out of shape with this stereotypical portrayal of the white man or woman as the saught after party as if there is none greater. And if there is any doubt that there is any its probably from a white perspective. How can we show any diversity of culture when the people controling what we watch are composed of a narrow scope of society. We need diversity of television on, off, and behind the screen. QEFTSG may be just the beginning of what is needed on television. I can't wait for television to catch up to the real reality.
I am in love with this show. Carson, Kyan, Ted, Jai, and Thom are wonderful, all talented in their own ways. By the way, I'm a heterosexual female, and usually watch this show with some friends who are gay, and we all love it. Its about time that we see more shows on tv that are more diverse!
I still love this show, but I must say, as a straight male, I am embarrassed by the incredible slobs that have been found to be the makeover targets. For the guys living alone, I can almost understand why things get dumped in corners (or sometimes in the middle of the floor) and not put away, why furniture doesn't match, the bathrooms are EPA hazardous waste sites, and why dirty dishes pile up in the sink. I mean, guys by themselves seldom think about themselves in a way that makes them keep the place clean and the dishes washed. But for those guys with wives or the guys with the (semi-) live-in girl friends, how can those women put up with that garbage piled up all over the place and the dirt and grime all over? If a guy is willing to be filmed in his underwear getting a spray-on tan, he's probably not going to be embarrassed by the fact that he lives in a pig sty. But, boy oh boy, those women who don't say "That's enough! Clean up this place right now or I'm going to start throwing this junk out!" really leave me scratching my head. Can anyone help me understand this?
Let me ammend the above by saying my confusion isn't that it's WOMEN who aren't saying "Clean Up!" my confusion is about why another PERSON of any type would allow themselves to be in the middle of such a mess.
Just watched the show about the Port Authority cop and I am SO JEALOUS of his girlfriend who got to go "sneaky shopping" with Carson!!! What's up with that? Anyway, apparantly Carson knows how to dress EVERYBODY, regardless of gender, because he sure accentuated her assets, didn't he?? :-))) The cop obviously approved of her so-called "boobages"! LOL! That guy was hilarious because of the way he was trying to be so tough and manly in front of the guys and then went to being so animated, almost "girly" in front of his woman, even to the point of using the word "divine". Wow! Oh well, another great show from the Fabulous Five! Can't wait for the next one!!!
It's interesting to note that the most critical comments about this show are coming from gay men! Carson is too mean, it's too stereotypical, blah blah blah! Sweeties, when was the last time you were out anywhere? Don't you know what's going on? These are NEW YORK CITY QUEENS! All they are doing is being themselves which yes, involves reading (if you don't know what that is, it's basically the way queens fight - not with fists but with witty words) and yes, in the beginning i was cringing a little when carson (and the rest) were reading the straight guy pretty hard in the beginning - but i swear to god when he whipped out those salad tongs and started picking the straight guys clothes out of his closet i fell on the floor laughing! Come ON people! Thats not mean, its funny!! And the reason why it works is because after they have their way for like 5-10 minutes they grab the guy by the hand and run him all over manhattan going into places i only WISH i could have afforded when i lived there! I have never felt like these five guys were ever "acting" - can't people tell the difference, tell the falseness? Yes, gay people actually DO act like that - they really do! Not everyone, but i would probably say a LOT of them - what is everybody afraid of? whats wrong with being a little nellie with your sisters? I think sometimes that people equate being gay or being "nellie" with being weak - if you feel that way i dare i just DARE you to walk up to a fierce new york drag queen and say ANYTHING insulting - who knows, she just might pull a pistol out of that pretty little handbag and blow you away! I swear to god, you have been warned. Can you even IMAGINE the power and strength it takes to be a drag queen? ANYway...i'm a gay man (could you tell?) who thinks queer eye is fun, FUNNY, and even emotional at times - i have an image of Kyan and the cop standing in the tanning shower in their skivvies and the cop freaking out and Kyan gesturing to himself and saying "this is gay, but what's gay about you?" which means, there is no problem here because i am gay and you are straight and i'm not trying to hit on you and standing next to me is not going to make you like guys, can't we just hang out and get our tans?" Look, for some people its going to be too much to handle - that's fine, just turn it off...but i'm telling you you are missing history in the making, and a funny as hell show - oh, those queens give me gas! love and things chris
Ok, here's the thing. My husband and I watch the show and we love it. His take is that staight men in general don't really know what's sexy and appealing to women. They expect us to tell them, but most of the time we don't; we just get annoyed with them for getting fat, slobby and uncultured as time goes by. We read our fashion mags, and watch our soap operas and KNOW what we like, but the communication to our men is not there... QE gives ordinary guys, if they're willing to pay attention, a glimpse into the mystery of "what women want" Almost every episode has been focused on making a man more apealing to a woman. Simple stuff - but it's catchin on like wild fire. I wonder why? Keep it up -this show is the most interesting thing on TV right now. All I can say is: Spray, Delay, Then Walk Away!!! :)
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Howdy people! My (straight, female) roommate and I have been watching QE from its premier & WE JUST LOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT!!! We both have actually called out sick from work just to watch the show...it's just too bitchin! As a gay man who used to be posessed of a lot of style, but got too caught up in middle-age, the show has truly inspired me to get off my sweet & pretty duff and start infusing some real style into my life again. Even my roommate wants to be made over by the FABS...which is going to require every ounce of their creativity or a powerful magic wand to do in her case :) YOU GO GUYS! We're waiting on your shows with baited breath.
Carson is the most entertaining, I have known a number of people just like him, outspoken, funny, and sometimes downright rude. But Jai is the cutest, hands down. I'd walk 100 miles just to see him pee in his pants. Love, Izzy
I've watched the show and read some of the cheers and jeers for it. Yes, the show displays a stereotypical gay sense of style, fashion and decoration. Rather than condemn the show for that or the attempt to mainstream the commodification of these sensibilities to heterosexual consumers, the show and the criticism for it made me think. Frankly, who are the top fashion designers, interior decorators, style gurus, artists and culture mavens (notice I didn't say chefs)? They happen to often be gay men. why? Why do some gay men have a problem with this show? I believe it has something to do with superficiality of what is being presented as a "deep change" for the straight male subjects in the shows. Perhaps the stereotypical gay sensibility for the superfical has a lot to do with the difficulty of growing up gay, hiding being gay, coming out and living out in our country. What better "expert" could one find than someone who has spent much of his life having to deal with what kind of persona he is projecting to the world. The mastery of persona and image seems it would be required for a gay man's survival through transformation from closeted gay man to openly gay man. I'm sure it is a very difficult, confusing and painful process, finding one's own identity through the various socialized personas. The superficial and artificial, whether it be our dress, the decoration in our living spaces or being hip to the latest hair style, music or cooking trend are ultimately both a defense and a test fit of an identity. If a gay youth or -really - any youth has to deal with, in particular, not fitting an identity or socialized persona, wouldn't this create a personality who could easily develop the skill of what has previously been described as the gay sensibilities? If he had not had these sensibilities as a youth perhaps this is another socialized persona that is handed to him by the gay community he is eventually eager to join? However, I am not suggesting that these stereotypical sensibilities for the superficial are even prone to a gay person. I simply saying that it seems that that the process of a search for identity and the refusal to accept mandated personas as described above could create this type of personality. It is just as easily an artistic sensibility, having little to do with sexuality. Maybe this is why a number of gay men are appalled with this show. The true life of a gay person has nothing to do with these artistic sensibilites, perhaps these gay men are dissatisfied with the representation because it does not show what it is to be gay. How would that be shown? Is it any more than a gay man loving and having a relationship with another gay man (I'm not talking about sex, but love), and would that be much different than showing a man loving a woman? Just some thoughts. I'm a straight man with many artistic sensibilities: art, interior decorating, cooking and sometimes dressing well....I wouldn't really call it fashion. I have had very close male and female friends who are gay. I do enjoy the show, partially because I have appreciation for the artistic or sensual, and because it is a pretty funny show.
I really like watching Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. It is a funny show. I know that a lot of people think that the gay men are "stereotypical" but it is still good entertainment. I wish they would come make me over!!!
I really like watching Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. It is a funny show. I know that a lot of people think that the gay men are "stereotypical" but it is still good entertainment. I wish they would come make me over!!!
I LOVE QE4TSG. I think they hired them because of there amazing knowledge, and just wanted a theme. I love it. Im a bisexual male, who is a kind of lazy person, but this show is sooooo choped with great great advice. if it was up to me I would not miss a single episode as long as it ran (but sometimes occupation runs into that)
I've noticed the first comment people make regarding this show is, "they are so funny". You would think that the gay community as a whole, would be sick and tired of being lumped together with stereotypical, limp wristed, "Jack" like charactares. The gay community will never be taken seriously as long as the media keeps portraying them as whining, wannabe drag queens.
I watched this show one time and was hooked! The five men are a great blend of personalities, and they really try their hardest to make a difference in a "straight" mans life. You can see the confidence that these men gain at the end of the show, and you find yourself rooting for them along with the fab five!!! I hope Bravo continues this show, its classy and tasteful. My husband even loves it!! It really has a lot of humor, and great tips! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
I'm a fourteen yr old (straight) girl and my friends and I all love the show. I particularly like how it shows the straight men interacting with the gay men. Each one of the fab five have there own special areas of expertice. And I'm especially fond of Jai (culture) and Kyan (grooming) for obvious reasons! ;-) I think that there work is wonderful. There intentions are good and the show achieves it's goals by lending a helping hand to some men in need of some divine and FABULOUS intervention. I will admit it does show homosexuals in a somewhat stereotypical way but for the shows purposes the FAB 5 could'nt be any better! not to mention Jai and Kayan are GORGEOUS!
My straight boyfriend refused to watch QE and even give it a chance ( I don't need someone that closeminded).....So i broke it off with him. GO ME! and GO Queere Eye! I love you more than my luggage! :)
I think its a great show--- great tips- even for another queer guy. now- where can i get that into music "all things, by widelife, vocal by simone".
But Carson IS a big queen. Why should he not be himself? Do we want to hide the queens? So he fits the stereotype...but he is so real! We LOVE Carson. He mocks the straight guys and goes through their underwear drawers. Get over it all. Many straight guys have made a career out of making fun of 'Carson types' and now they're finding themselves on the receiving end. It's funny. It sort of makes you think. Just enjoy it for a minute. It won't last forever.