Dr. Gene Scott
Archive: Richard Evans Lee
This is Part Two as it were. I decided to put an aside in my personal journal. Can’t say whether you’ll be amused by my Confessions of a childish blasphemer.
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I remember the first time I saw Doctor Gene Scott of Pasadena, CA. He was broadcasting from one of his TV stations. Back in the early seventies he had at least three: Pasadena, West Hartford, CT and somewhere outside of San Francisco where I was living.
When I saw Dr. Scott he looked ordinary enough. Suit and tie in a plain room with a blackboard. He was full of wrath but that has always been part of the stock and trade of preachers, pests, imams, & etc.
But what had roused his righteous wrath was unique. Someone had just given Jimmy Swaggart a gold Rolex watch. This was back before Jerry Lee Lewis’ cousin got Caught fornicating. Dr. Scott wasn’t outraged at the waste of money. He was pissed because no one had given him an expensive watch.
He was inviting a believing soul to understand God’s will and give him a gold Rolex. I was delighted. He fulminated on and on about it. I can’t remember if it was this telecast or another where he exploded that people could “go down the slimy chute to Hell” if they didn’t give him money. Scrawling on his blackboard, slamming his Bible on a desk, Doctor Eugene Scott was unequivocal in others’ duty to supply him with cash.
His physical congregation looked conventional enough, Southern California is famous as a Mecca of the goofy. Think of all those initially normally seeming but off-kilter folks Jack Webb is always so polite to in Dragnet.
Eugene Scott, Ph.D. mutates
I left the Baghdad by the Bay but many years later I saw him again. I was drinking with Gordon. Neither of us would watch TV but a couple of times when we were drunk we’d turn it on late and laugh at it.
One night we saw Dr. Scott! He had a satellite uplink. He had changed. Long hair, band around his head, beard, smoking a fat cigar. He’d bought a rundown old building and had plans to turn it onto a ‘cathedral.’
He just sat there demanding money. No pretence of a sermon. Nothing about redemption, Jesus, doing good works. Just give Gene Scott money. Reminded me of the urban legend about the classified that said only “Send $5.00.”
But he’d made several quantum leaps since the early days. Mostly he smoked his cigar, made odd remarks and told people they’d better call in their pledge now. Kind of like a PBS pledge break run by a psychotic. When he got tired of talking he’d play his saxophone. Or show movies of his racehorses in Tennessee.
But the peak was when he sang Stomp a Piss ant for Jesus.
That was all the mention Jesus got. I decided he had to be an atheist who was playing the biggest practical joke on the gullible imaginable. I see he has a web site now. Looks like he may have cut his hair and taken to wearing a tux. I learned that he earned a Ph.D. in philosophy from Stanford.
Since he mentions his transponder he’s still being seen via satellite somewhere. Hope you get to see his powerful witness to gullibility. Few moments of television can be as cheering. Sort of the Chuck Barris of televangelism.
October 2002
Got this email:
I’ll pray for your understanding and insight. I’ve met and known people of your level of intellect, albeit, they all had a much better ‘grasp’ of the English language. Furthermore, when they were made aware of the true mission of Dr. Gene Scott, i.e. to be an accurate and true teacher of the Lord’s Word to the masses, and found that the ‘urban legends’ that people such as yourself so ignorantly persist on spreading around the globe are, in fact, untrue and biased, grounded in fear and maliciousness - many thank their God above for blessing them so greatly with a teacher who is so learned AND able to relate what he has spent his lifetime studying to his parishioners in a way that can be understood by all who care to seek the Truth!!! You could at least correct the errors on your little site. For starters, the Cathedral is NOT in an old hotel, for Pete’s sake! It was a theater! I could go on, but I have better things to do with my time
January 2003
Another Scott fan admonishes me:
I’m sorry to have come upon your web site.
It has many errors on it. I would think you would like to know this so that you would be able to fix them.
To find the errors, many are spelling and typo’s, for others you should watch Dr. Gene Scott for a few weeks steady and try to find where he is wrong on something. Then you will find where you are wrong about him and will be able to fix you web site. It is clear in your remarks that you have little real knowledge of him and are judging a fictional person of your imagination.
Sorry for your lack of knowledge.
More About Doctor Gene Scott
The Shock Jock of Televangelism
Televangelist’s Arrival Divides a Small Town
Usenet newsgroup: alt.fan.gene-scott
The FBN Files - “I Worked for Dr. Gene Scott”
Other entries on Dr. Scott:
More About Doctor Gene Scott and Greedy Dr. Gene Scott (the second has a steady stream of comments from both believers and more sane folks).
I’ve come to regretfully suspect that Doctor Scott takes himself and possibly even what he preaches seriously.
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2 · Posted by: ken on November 28, 2003 11:28 PM
I am a christian. Not the best example of one. But one nonetheless. I just wanted to step outside of my christian self for a minute, to hang up my coat to avoid getting the shit of our ugly hearts on it. If it were possible, I would beat your ugly, moron face to a pulp. Just out of the sinful spite for idiots like you that boils in my heart. You typify the ultimate irony of man: he mocks and spits upon the one message that could save his miserable ass from the fucked up condition that he is in. (Of course, you don’t beleive that condition exists. I know. You are too smart for such things. Blind and dumb as a fucking mud fence post. But that’s just my sinful opinion.) A condition that, if you continue to be your own god - King Turd of Shit Mountain- , you will see face to face one day, when the illusion of this life melts away and the terribleness of hell itself makes an eternal bed for you. Then, after life has been done away with, you will hear death beat it wings, as it wakes from it’s rest and comes to feed upon you. And what have you? Your stupid fucking opinions. Your opinions that judged the very elect of God’s voices and children. So I just wanted to congratulate you. You figured it all out. Pray to yourself that I may one day have my head up my ass as far as you. Ciao! - Just another sinner
3 · Elsewhere: Pansexual Sodomite Dec 3, 2003 6:21 PM
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4 · Posted by: Jeff on December 11, 2003 10:03 PM
To disallow the exercise of free speech, when
you criticize a public figure, in an open forum,
seems to contradict its very foundation. The
use of hyperbole and characterization, for many
adults, illustrates the very genre of satire.
Maybe Scott is rotten, but we all know where the
smell comes from.
5 · Posted by: Richard Evans Lee on December 12, 2003 06:59 AM
That is a mighty fancy defense of posting silly one-liners using handles like Devil, Mephistopheles, Satan.
This isn’t a public forum. It is my personal weblog. I allow people to leave comments. I accept plenty of foolish comments. If someone repeatedly posts vapid comments I clear them out for the same reason I don’t let litter accumulate on the floor of my house.
I emailed you about this. Your response was to quickly post yet more silly remarks. I hate have to moderate comments. Look at comment No. 2 by ken. I didn’t delete it. If he’d posted the same thing several times I’d have removed them all.
If you really need to post frequently about that silly old reprobate you can setup a “Gene Scott is a Turd” weblog on AOL, Blogger or pay for server space and install MovableType.
6 · Posted by: Jeff on December 13, 2003 12:02 AM
And your purpose for having a website, is—-
freely having people read your comments, you
say? Certainly, and unlike the good spiritualist,
it is not to make a buck.
7 · Posted by: Richard Evans Lee on December 13, 2003 06:57 AM
I think Scott is a silly old charlatan.
But he hasn’t suckered nearly as many people as, say, Benny Hinn and doesn’t hurt people the way fundamentals scum like Donald Wildmon does.
Why does Scott, out of all the frauds out there, bother you so much? Did you know someone who joined his church?
8 · Posted by: Devilish Jeff on December 13, 2003 11:31 PM
I not only detest Scott, but Hinn, Swaggert, and
even Pat Robertson. Having done charitable work
for every community I’ve ever resided, it’s been
my misfortune to observe the struggles of the
destitute. Many of these misinformed folks donate
a great part of there meagerly incomes to pundits.
Along with the 700 club, Dr. Gene Scott has, as
you’ve already shown, grown into a world-wide
media money-grubber. Benny, Jimmy, and Pat have
all been covered by the national networks. Scott
has not.
9 · Posted by: Richard Evans Lee on December 14, 2003 12:33 PM
Scott’s outreach has never struck me as very large (it has been years since he was available to most people without a satellite system). I’ve wondered what kind of supporters he has but can’t imagine anybody falling for him. At least as he presents himself on TV.
When I was recently writing up Rev. Ike I did wonder how badly the ‘prosperity preachers’ who’ve plagued the African-American communities for decades hurt the poor people who send them money thinking that will cause some Higher Power given them ten-fold back.
10 · Posted by: Jeff on December 15, 2003 05:30 PM
Scott actually has many supporters, here, on the east
coast. He even owns local radio stations in the
mid-atlantic region. Alternately between broad-
casts, he’ll also tour on the lecture circuit.
And all to put additions into his potential Derby
stable.
11 · Posted by: Richard on December 16, 2003 05:43 AM
Back when I first saw him in the 70s he owned three TV stations around the country, looks like he got rid of a couple of those to concentrate on Southern California. Checked his radio schedule but there?s nothing near here.
A couple of people in LA emailed me recently to say he is looking pretty feeble nowadays. Once he?s dead his organization will surely crumble. I hope someone produces a documentary on the old fraud one day.
12 · Posted by: Jeffistopheles on December 18, 2003 11:18 PM
After accessing Scott’s various sites, I’ve found
that he’s added even more outlets. He just
purchased a couple of stations in southern
Ontario, one in Pennsylvania, and others,
throughout the Midwest. He’s making a pretty
good penny.
13 · Posted by: Richard on December 19, 2003 05:07 PM
I only know about the site at the top of Google searches.
What other sites does he have?
14 · Posted by: Former employee of Dr. Gene Scott on December 21, 2003 06:37 PM
I left Dr. Scott’s employ a number of years ago. Yes, he does have a PhD from Stanford. He’s brilliant man — a brilliant fund raiser — and a brilliant teacher. I don’t have a satellite dish, so I haven’t seen him in years.
I can tell you his icy, blue-eyed stare, rimmed with fire — burned right through you when he was angry and most of his staff were terrified of him. Terrified that they would let him down, disappoint him, fail at a task. Nothing, but nothing, could prevent you from doing what he assigned you to do. His temper is legend. He could blow his stack during a song break, and come back on camera and you’d never know it.
That being said, I can assure you, he is not a fraud, he truly believes in what he is doing, I simply question his methods. But, as he often told us — that’s between him and God — and God will be his final judge. Once you give him money he can put it in a sack and dump it in the ocean if he wants to. What he does with the money isn’t your business. Is he still saying that?
15 · Posted by: Captain Religion, Jr. on December 21, 2003 06:50 PM
So he’s just another money grubber. Not better than Jim Bakker, Robert Tilton and the rest who claim to be in touch with truth of that pathetic, silly Christian.
Another fraud who adopted the Foursquare Gospels techniques. He’s still amusing. But only because of his followers. Many have preceeded him. Others will follow him until the race finally dies by whatever stupid thing it does to itself.
But Doctor eUgene Scott is just another crazed begger who has befuddled morons.
Yawn …
16 · Posted by: John on December 22, 2003 08:40 PM
I first remember seeing Dr. Scott in 1984 when waking up early on morning for school. (It was usual for me to wake at 5AM on most mornings.) Cutting on the TV as one does when they wake up I saw what I thought was a religious telethon. I saw it again several mornings later. I thought “who is this guy?” I brought a change however from Jimmy Swaggart giving his “religious vomit” early every morning, way before he confessed to being a “sinner”. I seemed to wake up earlier every morning to see what this guy would say or do. Many nights he sat and read comment after comment. I remember once seeing him stop in the middle of a teaching saying “I’m boring you, let’s read comments.” And doing so. I was just researching to see if he was still around.
17 · Posted by: Triana on December 25, 2003 03:14 PM
My mother mentioned Dr. Scott to me one day, and told me how odd he was… I didn’t believe her. I watched him a bunch of times out of sheer shock and disbelief. This man oozes pure evil. He’s obviously very intelligent, but everything that came out of his mouth was sick and perverted. Eventually anyone who has fallen for his lines will wake up, hopefully before he’s ruined their lives with his foul-mouthed sick rhetoric. He doesn’t believe in the Bible. He doesn’t believe in Jesus as his savior. He’s a liar and a thief.
I sat there with my mouth hanging open wondering how anyone could listen to him and take him seriously. But there were actually people sending money… just totally blew me away at the sheer stupidity and feeling sorry for them. How could anyone be so far away from God that they could believe the evil stuff he said. I watched him for two hours one night, railing with hatred at his listeners for not sending him money. He refused to read from the Bible until they had sent him a certain amount. Then he read like two passages and stopped, and started railing with hatred again.
This is NO man of God.
18 · Posted by: Jeff on December 31, 2003 03:04 AM
After the above input from others, can this guy
really be considered “harmless?” I loathe
dishonesty. And that is why I hate Scott.
19 · Posted by: Richard on December 31, 2003 09:34 AM
Jeff:
Former employee says Scott believes his nonense. John seems to have found him amusing. Triana is mad because he isn’t really a Christian. That last bothers me not at all.
To me Scott simply is no worse nor better than similar scum.
20 · Posted by: Jeff on December 31, 2003 02:14 PM
To have intellectual capacity, to deliberately
betray peoples’ trust, constitutes a brazen
immorality.
Any yo’ Dick, quit addressing me personally on
this site. That’s what E-mail is for.
21 · Posted by: Richard on December 31, 2003 04:06 PM
I address individual comments by name in many of my replies to the comments left on the six weblogs on Edifying Spectacle. It makes it easier for people who come after to follow the discussion.
Since you have my email address (I did email you and there is the email link in the sidebar) you can always address me privately.
I haven’t said Dr. euGene isn’t immoral. In a world filled with chicanery, fraud, deceit, dishonesty, theft he doesn’t stand out for me like he does for you.
I try to document as many of them as I notice in the news. Preachers, psychics, healers, quack medicine peddlars.
22 · Posted by: Jeff on December 31, 2003 07:14 PM
How many of these sites are dedicated, in name,
to Dr. euGene Scott? He doesn’t “stand out” for
you.
Je ne comprends pas. C’est incredible!
23 · Posted by: matt2442 on January 6, 2004 03:47 PM
I was a member of Gene Scott’s “church” in the late 1980’s. All I can say is, if he was ever “for real” in his younger days,today he is the worst of the worst as far as TV preacher’s go. He hates being called a TV evangelist ,and being associated with the likes of Benny Hinn, TBN ,and such, but he truly is more in it for the money than any of them. I don’t understand how an ex-staff member can still stick up for Scott. Staff people are the most abused in Gene Scott’s organization.They are all “assholes” as far as Scott is concerned ,and he tells them so, right on television.
Scott may truly believe what he is doing ,but he is a self deluded , narcissist, who loves himself and money, and no one else.
24 · Posted by: Richard on January 6, 2004 06:27 PM
It would’ve been about 1980 that I first saw him on TV and he was bitching that someone had given Swaggart a gold Rolex watch but nobody had given one to Gene Scott.
So, if he was ever really pious it was probably when he was twelve.
25 · Posted by: Jeff on January 6, 2004 10:45 PM
This is now the 21st century, and Scott can wear
that Rolex, quite possibly in the near future,
as he sits in the owner’s box in Kentucky’s
Churchill Downs, watching his new acquisition
“Bullet” cross the finish line. But then, is ABC
Sports coverage, really the big time? Not from
what I believe, because he’s just a “silly
charlatan.” Or, so I’ve heard.
26 · Posted by: ric on January 7, 2004 02:04 AM
Would remind my fellow Christians that those who attack Dr. Scott prove the Truth of his teaching.
27 · Posted by: Matt2442 on January 7, 2004 04:18 PM
To Ric, who posted:
Would remind my fellow Christians that those who attack Dr. Scott prove the Truth of his teaching.
How so? And what truth would that be ? I followed Scott’s teaching for 7 years before I finally had enough. Whatever truth might be contained in his teaching doesn’t make it ok for him to be an abusive , megolomaniac, nor is it necessary for me to continue supporting it. There are warnings in scripture about false teachers in the last days, and how to recognize them. Gene Scott fits the description to a T. (Jude , 2 Peter Chap. 2)
I am not a legalist ,and was drawn to his teaching about the Grace of God. After 7 years it finally clicked that he does not allow you to live by the Grace of God, but you must tithe 25% , not to mention offerings for every occasion you can think of , you must make reservations for the Cathedral on Sunday, you must “get on the phones” and call in your pledges, you must fill the red seats in the church, and if you don’t ,he gets pissed and calls his congregation a bunch of unworthy assholes, who don’t deserve him as their pastor. Read 2 Timothy chapter 3 about the qualifications of a Pastor, or Leader in the church. Scott fails big time.
My apologies to those who are not Christian ,as this post is sort of for those who are.
28 · Posted by: Jeff on January 8, 2004 05:46 PM
Matt 2442 has “been there, and done that.” He
hit the nail on the head. There can be no more
illusions of Scott being an inconsequential thief.
The case is closed.
29 · Posted by: Just another 2 cents on January 10, 2004 12:50 PM
You know I can appreciate the fact that your website provides an outlet for the insane (not you). At least you are honest in your “opinions”. What truly amazes me with the some of the others is the only thing they can point to is about the “money”. Well if the people that give to this Minisistry are just dumb and don’t “know” better, why would any of you give a care about it? Why hate this person, Gene Scott? What has he done to any of you personally? All that has been posted has all been full of rhetoric. The only thing about this websit is it has been very amusing to read how some have come to view Dr. Scott and how irritated they can get about him! I sometimes wonder why if this guy is so dishonest why haven’t any of you done anything about it? Why don’t you put your money where you mouth is? At least Richard did! If Dr. Gene Scott is so “dishonest”, then I challenge you all to give a TRUE account and BACK IT UP!
30 · Posted by: Bob D on January 10, 2004 12:52 PM
As always, the truth is somewhere in between.
Dr. Scott never ceases to amaze me. Yes he is a bit of a meglamaniac. Nonetheless I enjoy watching him even if sometimes his antics are deplorable. I would place him in the third category of the following classification:
There are four phases in the evolution of religious philosophy: Such an experience may become merely conformative, resigned to submission to tradition and authority. Or it may be satisfied with slight attainments, just enough to stabilize the daily living, and therefore becomes early arrested on such an adventitious level. Such mortals believe in letting well enough alone. A third group progress to the level of logical intellectuality but there stagnate in consequence of cultural slavery. It is indeed pitiful to behold giant intellects held so securely within the cruel grasp of cultural bondage. It is equally pathetic to observe those who trade their cultural bondage for the materialistic fetters of a science, falsely so called. The fourth level of philosophy attains freedom from all conventional and traditional handicaps and dares to think, act, and live honestly, loyally, fearlessly, and truthfully.
31 · Posted by: Jeff M on January 10, 2004 03:07 PM
Look…no body is perfect.
I hear all the chatter about Scott.
All I can say is that since he
has been on here in Hartford, CT in
the last year or so. I have learned
alot of stuff that has interested
me for many years that nobody in the church realm has ever told me and knows anything about to even speak of. Like communion, revelation and the tabernacle. I realize he is not perfect…who is?
But the man has a truth, and that he does a great job sharing, as far as I am concerned. I have enjoyed the teaching and appreciate the blessing of seeing him free insted of on a satellite. And what he does with my money IS HIS business.
32 · Posted by: Richard on January 10, 2004 04:41 PM
Jeff M:
Television broadcasts aren’t a high quality source of information. There are plenty of good histories, outlines of theology and reference books.
Even though I’m an atheist I’ve often found church history, doctrinal disputes and the like highly entertaining.
33 · Posted by: Jeff on January 10, 2004 09:27 PM
The need for some individuals to be humiliated
never ceases. Such represents the aforementioned
folks. Crime flourishes with the aid of these
hapless souls. Scott utilizes guilt and shame to
herd these misdirected sheep. Even the labelling
of his switchboard dolts as “assholes” corroborates this. And analogous to this abuse
of his own employees, Gene masterfully rakes in
the cash, from the thoughtless, insecure boobs
who, quite, willingly, line up. But isn’t that
part of one’s role in the Kingdom?
34 · Posted by: Rox on January 11, 2004 11:19 PM
My grandmother asked me to look up Dr Scott to see if he was still alive b/c his program had been removed from channel 18 recently. In doing so, I found this site first. I have to say I was amazed, entertained, concerned, and a little saddened by everything that has been said. My grandmother has always been a “godly” woman but due to her health was unable to attend church in her latter years. In the past two years she stumbled upon Dr Scott on tv. At first she hated him and thought he was a nut…so much of a nut that it drew her to watch him just to see what the guy would say next. After time, she too realized how intelligent/knowledgable the man is. Crazy maybe….or just smart enough to use a technique to gain one’s undivided attention. Regardless, the man has changed my grandmother’s life and has educated her about the Bible and Jesus’s teachings. For this I am thankful b/c we now are able to talk about the Bible and religious history. Since his program has been removed from tv my grandmother is in a sense lost. When her tv was on, Dr Scott was on the tv. She misses his program and has been ordering his videos every chance she gets. She hasn’t sent in tithes, but I think $38 a tape is considered an offering in my book. (but I could be wrong) I personally think Dr Scott is a bit odd, aggressive, rude, and demanding. But I have to give him credit for the changes he has made in my grandmother’s life. However, it doesn’t change my view about him as a philospher/preacher…..the guy is odd!
35 · Posted by: Jeff M on January 12, 2004 01:09 PM
Rox:
All I can say to that posting is Jesus at times places people in our way for reasons. Maybe Dr. Scott was the person your grandmother needed to expose her heart to biblical enlightenment. if you discard the oddities of his personality..you can learn alot from Dr. Scott.
I wish my old legalistic and anti-grace church could hear some of his teachings about grace and mercy. I always thought if they could only hear his message they may see the light and free some bonded people is a rules/law driven church.
Jeff
36 · Posted by: matt2442 on January 12, 2004 04:06 PM
I also learned a lot from Dr. Scott. His ability to teach is unquestionable.(Some of his teachings are questionable.) That alone kept me going for a long time,in spite of some major warning signs (the kind that tell you that you are in a cult), but there has to be a point where you have to face up to the fact that all of his “great teaching” , doesn’t justify the degree of abuse that goes on. There’s something terribly wrong when someone treats people that way, especially if he is a minister of Jesus Christ. Perhaps some who would stick up for Dr. Scott have not spent time as a volunteer or on his staff. I have and know others who have.
As for Rox’s Grandmother, I can see how she has probably benefitted from the teaching he does, and I hope she is at a safe distance from his “Cathedral”, and won’t get too sucked into Scott’s trip. If I might suggest, there are a lot of his tapes posted on his website, and many are from the earlier days of his ministry, when he was a lot less abusive. They are actually very good to listen to. You might also get her a shortwave radio. Be forwarned however that Scott does not consider the price of his tapes equal to a tithe. He will , as he does so often, consider your grandmother a “thief and a robber” (quoting Malachi) if she listens to his teaching, and doesn’t “tithe” 25% of her income , plus offerings.(a tithe is supposed to mean 10%. You would need to listen to Scott’s theology of giving to find out where he gets that 25% figure. Besides, for a Christian under the new covenant, there is NO obligation to tithe. Scott twists scripture , manipulates people and bullies them into giving. He teaches that if you are not “tithing” you are going to Hell.)
I might also suggest a book that helped me out a lot when I left his “church”. It is called “Healing Spiritual Abuse” by Ken Blue. Of special interest is the chapter on the “messianic narcissist” type of abuser. It’s a pretty good description of what Gene Scott is.
Also , concerning false teachers Jesus said:
#1 beware of false teachers
#2 by their fruits you will know them
37 · Posted by: Jeff on January 12, 2004 07:26 PM
I want all you “assholes” to donate to my cause.
“ching ching.”
I need more contributions.
“ching ching.”
If you don’t empty those piggy-banks, you’ll
go to Hell.
“ching ching.”
My horse needs a new DVD player in his stall.
“ching ching.”
Don’t forget to come back next week.
The pot’s overflowing.
38 · Posted by: Jeff M on January 12, 2004 08:46 PM
Matt:
I understand your point and agree with most of it. I came from a real legalistic church and was a member for 25 years. And I reconize Dr. Scotts issues with cultic and legalistic behavior. I actually see most of it and maybe that is why I am semi-drawn to him. When I left that church it took a long time to change my thinking processes with what I was taught for so many years and what the truth was. And I still strugle with judgmentalism and other stuff. But what drives me crazy is the hypocritical people in churches. To that end, Dr. Scott and I agree. I try to be cautious about him. When he gets on a rant, it reminds me of the old days at my old place. I just like the depth of his teachings and listen to it for what it is worth.
Jeff
39 · Posted by: Jeff on January 12, 2004 11:05 PM
In a rant ala Dennis Miller: “This Scott character
makes my homeroom teacher with the ruler look
like fucking Jim Jones on ephedrine-laced PowerAid. Give him all 12 inches of the ruler,
and he’ll be looking to take a goddam yardstick.”
40 · Posted by: just another 2 cents worth on January 13, 2004 08:18 PM
Sounds like matt2442 is out for revenge. It’s too bad you don’t have the gonads to do what Richard here has done at least to run a website. I know there is “some” money involved in doing so and maybe that is the problem (you don’t have any). As I said before all that has been spoken here is a bunch of rhetoric. Again I ask why would you even care? You have not spouted out any new truths here. You have not enlightned anyone here. If you had a shred of belief in GOD and HIS WORD, I can not believe you would spend your time spouting out of what you seem to think is your mouth about some preacher on the tube. Although I do not agree with Richard’s opinions or slanted view of Dr. Scott at least he is more of a man than are. You only seem to whine about some preacher on the tele who is obviously getting under your skin!
41 · Posted by: Jeff on January 13, 2004 08:57 PM
I’m not sure that “Just Another 2 Cents” would not
entail a great deal of inflation. It seems to
signify a worthless diatribe when one misses the
entire signicance of the site, itself. To his
credit, I don’t believe Richard devised this site
for any celebration of holier-than-thou bliss.
Nor should Matt be crucified for his comments
on his GeneWorld experience. Perhaps, it’s time
to put your comments in the vault, “2”, because
really, only your soul is WORTH saving.
42 · Posted by: matt2442 on January 14, 2004 02:32 PM
in response to :
40 · Posted by: just another 2 cents worth on January 13, 2004 08:18 PM
2 cents: Sounds like matt2442 is out for revenge.
matt2442: I’m just sharing my experience and my opinion of Gene Scott, based upon that experience. I believe that is what I, and you, are invited to do here. So what is your problem with that exactly, other that you disagree with my comments?
2 cents: It’s too bad you don’t have the gonads to do what Richard here has done at least to run a website.
matt2442: For what purpose? Running an anti-gene Scott website would be a waste of time and energy. I find it sufficient to post on websites that already exist, where the subject is Dr. Scott. I have done nothing but what I was invited to do. What does that have to do with having gonads or not? (You sound like a scotty- those are the words he uses, and scotties tend to parrot their pastor’s words a lot, lemmings that they are.)
2 cents: I know there is “some” money involved in doing so and maybe that is the problem (you don’t have any).
Matt2442: I never really thought about it. I do have some money ,but I don’t really have the time or inclination to start an anti-scott website. That would ,in my opinion, be going overboard.
2 cents: As I said before all that has been spoken here is a bunch of rhetoric.
matt2442: Really? Please explain.
2 cents: Again I ask why would you even care?
Matt2442: Hello?!! Because, I have personal experience with the subject of this discussion, and am doing what I was invited to do, that is to leave a comment (or two) about Gene Scott. What is your problem with that?
2 cents: You have not spouted out any new truths here.
matt2442: Perhaps not. Most of what I have said here can plainly be seen by watching Dr. Scott’s tv show.
2 cents: You have not enlightned anyone here.
matt2442: I would leave that to others who read to determine, not you.
2 cents: If you had a shred of belief in GOD and HIS WORD, I can not believe you would spend your time spouting out of what you seem to think is your mouth about some preacher on the tube.
Matt2442: What? I don’t follow your reasoning here. How does sharing my experience with a false teacher amount to lack of faith in God or His Word? How do YOU determine that I don’t have Faith in God or his Word? Because I said something about your beloved Gene that you don’t like?
2 cents: Although I do not agree with Richard’s opinions or slanted view of Dr. Scott at least he is more of a man than are. You only seem to whine about some preacher on the tele who is obviously getting under your skin!
Matt2442: I have obviously gotten under yours. I apologize. I am not trying to provoke, but Scotties are so protective of their pastor (I know. I was one.) Tell me why I shouldn’t speak up about it? People come out of other cults (yes it IS a cult ,in my opinion), and share their experiences. Why should I be any different? Your problem seems to be that I am not praising your Pastor. By the way ,if you are a member of Dr. Scott’s ministry in some way, have you ever gone to the cathedral? Or volunteered, or applied to go on staff? Where are YOUR gonads? How long would you last on staff? He’d cuss you out the first day you worked for him.
43 · Posted by: Pond Scum on January 14, 2004 07:50 PM
The fact that Doc Scott has built his world-wide empire from scratch is testimony to the validity of his teaching. Sure 99% of the people that view him do not like him or believe they see through him. The remaining 1% view him quite differently. Myself, I am frustrated by his ego-centric agenda, Nonetheless I still learn something from this self proclaiming genius. I even suffer through his mental jerk off technique for the occasional insight or bit of wisdom. Anybody remember the days of the playmates rollerblading in G-strings? I do…
44 · Posted by: justanother2cents on January 15, 2004 02:53 AM
In Response to Matt2442:
First it’s obvious the point is lost on you. In regards to starting your own site… as Richard did here, I was referring to you beginning your own web site or ministry to “save” people from themselves. It appears to me that Richard makes it plain here that he does not beleive a God exists and then pursues to prove that through the gullibility of others and televangelists.
You on the other hand and I take it from your name handle and what you have said in some of your other responses that you believe in GOD. Well it seems to me that you would spend more time speading HIS Word than to come on here and whine about being a “Scotty” reject. As for people like you who obviously seem to be “Scotty” rejects of some sort, you act as if you are Christians on a crusade to “help” stupid people from themselves and from people who YOU deem as evil. You use this site as a waste depot to deposit your crap on others. And just so you know I could care less of your opinion about Dr. Scott. Just stop your whining and maybe grow some gonads (if that is even possible!).
45 · Posted by: matt2442 on January 15, 2004 05:46 PM
to 2 cents:
Thank you for clarifying what you meant. I appreciate that.
It takes about two or three minutes to type a comment here, so how would you know whether I spend more time spreading His Word or not? You know nothing about my life and what I do with it. And why have you singled me out? I’m not the only one here who has said anything against your beloved Dr. Scott. I just have a personal experience to draw from that most others who have commented don’t. Why are you so put off by that? You would just as soon have everyone who was ever hurt by Gene Scott (and there are many)just go away and keep silent about it. So would Gene Scott. (maybe you ARE Dr. Scott, by the way.)
Making insulting remarks regarding my gonads isn’t an intelligent argument. As far a using this site as a “waste dump”,I haven’t heard Richard object to anything I have said so far, and this will probably be the last thing I post here. I’ve said enough regarding Gene Scott, and out of respect for Richard, I don’t think this site was intended for us to go on arguing with each other. Enjoy Scott’s teaching, and sit there and applaud while he abuses his staff and congregation if you wish.
46 · Posted by: Jeff on January 15, 2004 07:25 PM
Boys! boys! boys!
Fight like nice little Christians!
47 · Posted by: Jeff on January 15, 2004 09:58 PM
Will Rogers once said:”You can’t get to the other
side of the lake, if you tried to jump in the
boat, and missed. In that case, you might try to
swim, but with all your thrashing about, just end
up drowning yourself.”
48 · Posted by: Pond Scum on January 18, 2004 05:43 PM
Bottom line is often times an old Scotty video, especially some of the mean Gene reviews are a great watch. Remember ole Gene is only at roughly 70% of his spiritual capacity. Just think what he’d done if he was around 90%. Bye the way I would not dare pass judgement on the guy, I can’t even proclaim my own future. But I can watch the guy without feeling foolish for doing it.
49 · Posted by: Pond Scum on January 18, 2004 10:33 PM
before I forget, one can pickkup our fearless Scott virtually anywhere on the planet these days.
Do you suppose he is being funded by an ultra right wing organization?
50 · Posted by: Jeff on January 19, 2004 05:41 PM
Gene is being funded, courtesy of thoughtless
nincompoops, and by a large organization, GOD
(Gold or Dollars.)
51 · Posted by: Pond Scum on January 20, 2004 04:55 PM
Hmmm. I see the wonderful, kind, caring Doc Scott has fired his whole staff again. He says if they grovel well enough he may consider re-hiring if they can beg humbly while volunteering for work they were once paid for. Sheesh.
52 · Posted by: Jeff M on January 21, 2004 02:19 PM
He requires alot. But, it brings the best out of you. The problem with people is that not many are disciplined and cannot dedicate their life to anything anymore. What Scott is doing now is great. I wish I was in LA to work for him.
53 · Posted by: Jeff on January 21, 2004 09:28 PM
Dr. Gene does a lot of his employee sourcing at
the local bus stop. If you have the drive to
serve the master, the following prequisites are
crucial: low self-esteem, no personal promotion,
and inferior IQ, then this may be the job for you. Dr. euGene Scott is an equal opportunist.
scott
54 · Posted by: Pond Scum on January 22, 2004 05:10 AM
Jeff M:
There is no question discipline is sorely lacking in the lives of many people today. The trouble with Scott is that he does it to enforce full compliance that is the hallmark of any dictatorship. Unless I am mistaken, this latest round of purging was triggered by some malfunction in camera #3. So Scott has this rag tag band of inexperienced minions trying to function when the greatest sin in the eyes of Scott is to dare think for themselves. I am sorry, for a Resurrection sermon by Scott is by far the most impressive message I have ever heard. Unfortunately, all this other false doctrine is entangled with it.
Anybody know whatever became of his previous “wife” Christine?
55 · Posted by: Bobby-Joe on January 22, 2004 09:31 AM
How can this psycho ask for your hard earned dollars and then call you a loser and self-centered? He himself is the biggest Self-Centered Creature on this Planet. One of his Staff Members quit the other day saying: ” I can’t take it, I Quit”. Then Dr. Gene-ooo pleads with him to come back on payroll, the Staff Member accepts only to then be FIRED, just so Gene-ooo feels in control. He then fires everyone on his Staff. This Man of Hate then wants all his Little Troopers to man the phones and cameras for free. His flock of sheep appear to be blind, deaf, low self imaged and single digit I.Q.’s. Also, I wonder what kind of drug he so cleverly conceals in his handkerchief during his Sunday Service. Watch as he removes the hanky from his pocket and careful unfolds it, puts it to his nose and sniffs. Then 20 minutes later he does it again. So folks as I close, send him all your money, you don’t need to eat, send him all your money, you don’t need a roof over your head, send him all your money, you don’t need money. Remember, as we all have Heard: “Money Is The Root of All Evil”. With his pockets “FULL” of Your “Money”. Who is the “Evil One”. Thanks for your time and get to work so you can give Gene-ooo all your “CASH”.
56 · Posted by: Pond Scum on January 22, 2004 11:53 AM
Hi Ya Bobbie Joe,
About 4 years ago I went to see the old boy in LA. Being from outastate I did a couple a nights on the phones. Glad I did. Got to see the inner workins of Faith Center. You are somewhat low on the IQ estimate of Gene’s cadre, I’d say the avg is at least 50 and may even approach 70.
It is a fascinating study of the machinations of a pre cult organization. There’s that cult word again, root of culture no doubt.
I wonder what the minions must think of Princess Christine?
57 · Posted by: Crackers on January 29, 2004 09:40 AM
I listened last week on shortwave radio to Dr. Scott’s abusive railing & ranting when he fired his staff over some petty incident. I listen to Scott only for entertainment. Scott is little more than an ego-trip abusive fundamentalist type with a few esoteric “teachings” thrown in…everything centered around his cult of personality.
*(I said “fundamentalist”, but he is most certainly not a “legalist”…)
If you want to understand the Bible, get yourself a good set of Bible commentaries, etc. written by reputable contemporary moderate scholars. Better still, whatever the Bible “speaks” to your heart in a personal way is what really matters. Forget the likes of fundamentalists and Doc Scott!
58 · Posted by: Pond Scum on January 29, 2004 08:36 PM
Here is yahoo group URL that has an open discussion on Scott.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DR_SCOTT/
A little more user friendly if you are a yahoo group member.
59 · Posted by: gary on February 22, 2005 04:48 PM
How in the hell did he get that woman for a wife?
Oh I forgot, he had everyones money. That will get you the chicks every time. Plus it helps if you give them a stage to sing on. Be the only stage that people would come to. Kind of like your trapped. If you get up and leave, you would be chewed out by the old goat in front of everyone. So she had a nice captive audience. My God, does anyone think she can sing? She has no range to her voice, she goes flat often and sings the songs with no feeling at all. Now that Gene is Gone, maybe no one will be subjected to that voice any longer. Even the ones like me that would be channel sufering and come a cross her singing. Oh yes I would watch and listen in total shock that this woman thinks she can sing. I also would watch because she is kind of cute and I would like to do her. She could even sing while I do her, that would be okay. Now her plan has paid off. The old goat finally died. She now has it all. You go girl.
60 · Posted by: TSA on February 23, 2005 06:25 PM
Oh for crying out loud people - so he doesn’t like GS - it’s his opinion, and last I checked america still has not repealed the “freedom of speech” rule.
1;) you could tell that GS was mainly in it for the money.
2:) even so, his blunt way of saying and doing things made him “cool” to watch (ei: “kick they’re ass and tell em to have fiath in GOD”).
Have also heard about an hour ago that he died of a stroke last monday (02/21/05).
If anyone happens to have taped any of his sermons/ talk show eps from the late 80’s or early 90’s, would like to obtain copies for the archives.
if you have them, check yahoo groups under the name “tigersan1”
61 · Posted by: Jeff on February 26, 2005 03:57 AM
So goes He the way of Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggert,
and Jim Jones. And now who inherits His empire?
Whomever displays the wile, most likely. There’s
plenty of SALVATION out there—but only, at the
right price.
62 · Posted by: Tsarevich Alexei on March 8, 2005 10:03 PM
I watched Gene Scott for decades, mostly because religious phenomena of all kinds interest me and always have. I hold an undergraduate degree in religion and a Master of Divinity from mainstream, respected educational institutions comparable to Stanford, where Dr. Scott obtained his Ph.D. At this late stage of my life I cannot classify myself as a “traditional” believer, but I do believe religion, whether its assumptions are “literally true,” “symbolically true,” or simply the product of human imagination, existential anxiety, or a desire of certain human beings to have power over others (“God will get you for that,” to quote Maud Findlay), religion is still a very powerful, and in today’s world, extremely dangerous, force that intelligent people need to take seriously, no matter to what degree they believe or disbelieve.
It’s rather like popular music—it may sound like noise to you, but you had better pay at least some attention to it if you want to have an inkling where the next generation is headed.
Gene Scott, to my mind, was a fascinating collection of contradictions. First of all, he was insufferably full of himself—but I’ve known dignified, respectable Episcopal bishops and Roman Catholic monsignors who exhibited that characteristic in equal measure to Scott. On the other hand, to all appearances, he was civic minded, had a social conscience, and really did facilitate major charitable works in Los Angeles. To be sure, he made sure he got plenty of publicity for it. Still, he counted many in the social-political-economic hierarchy of Southern California as close and trusted friends over a period of years, and they themselves appeared on his broadcasts to attest to their respect for him and his contributions to the community.
Did he enjoy the money? Of course. Did he say it was no one’s business how he spent it? Yes, repeatedly, but the hierarchy of the Latter-day Saints (Mormons) say much the same thing, as do other religious organizations. At the opposite end of things, the Unitarians are remarkably transparent about their finances and even insist on paying taxes, forfeiting their status as a non-profit organization—but they have done that as a matter of choice, under no governmental or doctrinal constraint. They just think it’s only fair. In yet another variation, in many Roman Catholic dioceses and archdioceses the bishop or archbishop is a “corporation sole” who literally owns and controls all the real estate or other assets under his jurisdiction. In some form he is answerable to the pope and to God, but not necessarily to the parishioners who put money in the collection plate every Sunday.
Gene Scott fought the IRS for years and the California attorney general’s office (and won) to preserve and protect the financial privacy, not just of his own congregation, but that of the Worldwide Church of God, Scientology, and others. To my mind that sounds like a spirited defense of religious freedom. One may be repulsed by Scott’s or any others’ religious doctrines, by their manner of raising money, or by their attitudes, but, short of criminality, it is in fact no one’s business, least of all the government’s. The Founding Fathers had suffered through such abuse and were at pains to create a system in which it would not be repeated.
No one held a gun to the heads of Scott’s contributors. One may believe them to have been moronic, gullible, silly, or misled, but people have a right to do with their money as they please. From the beginning of time, religions have had to face the problem of self-perpetuation and material existence, so they have to raise money. How they accomplish that, assuming they do not defraud their contributors, is up to them. Jesus himself and his male disciples were supported by a dedicated group of women “out of their means,” indicating these females were of some substance—should we criticize that arrangement as well? Anyone who is familiar with church life knows that to this day it’s the women who do most of the work.
Scott justified his asking for money by the notion that one should be willing to pay the teacher for what one receives from him that is of value. He stated on numerous occasions that, if a listener was not getting something from the teaching, then that individual was under no obligation to give him money.
Was what he said entertaining, frustrating, outrageous, self-serving, self-aggrandizing, offensive, etc.? Of course, but so is what one hears from the mouths of politicians, comedians, and newscasters. They also lie, but I don’t think Gene Scott was much of a liar. There may have been things he didn’t talk about, but in much I think he was up front. Did the listeners get something of substance from his “messages”? Most assuredly, for he was a brilliantly educated, articulate man well-versed in his particular theological milieu. His commentaries on the Psalms, certain of the prophetic books of the Old Testament, and the discourse of St. Paul in the New Testament were exceedingly well researched and clear, though often probably too complex for his own congregation, and presented in a serious, academic, perfectly “respectable” manner. He was not a “fundamentalist,” but at the same time he didn’t accept more modern theological schools of thought. He was an “Anglo-Israelist,” believing that the peoples of Great Britain and of the English-speaking world were descended from the “ten lost tribes” of Israel, and that Jesus and Joseph of Arimethea had actually gone to England during the “lost years” of Jesus’ youth, about which we know virtually nothing. I happen to think that’s a crackpot notion, but Scott arrayed arguments for it that were not so easily toppled. The great English poet and artist, William Blake, believed something along these lines and wrote his poem “Jerusalem” under the inspiration of that belief. The words were set to music, and it is today, next to “God Save the Queen,” THE song that is sung at public gatherings in England—I know, for I sang it along with thousands of British Boy Scouts in the nave of Canterbury Cathedral on St. George’s Day last year. It may be indefensible theology, but it sure makes for incomparable music!
Scott was not homophobic—he said a person’s sexuality was something between that person and God, and it wasn’t Scott’s business to intrude. He said he loved women and wouldn’t care to be a homosexual himself, but also said that his personal preference had nothing to do with the situation. On one occasion he even discussed the morality of oral sex within marriage—and that was several years ago. Even today most preachers of any stripe would rather touch the third rail of a subway than mention that one in the pulpit!
There were a lot of things about Gene Scott I didn’t care for, but I think it’s hasty to be dismissive or demeaning about his life and work. Yeah, he probably had the stroke while he was boinking Melissa (not necessarily the worst way to go), but on the other hand, how many men of 75 wouldn’t jump at such an opportunity, or might even have the capacity to take it if offered? Was he rich? Probably, but so is Bill Gates—so is Martha Stewart for that matter (to my knowledge Gene Scott never spent a day behind bars). Crass? Offensive? Maddening? Of course, but Scott was far more complicated than that.
Gene Scott had a profound understanding that if one wants to succeed in the REAL America, one need only master the life and work of P.T. Barnum. The “grandmother” of all “televangelists,” the redoubtable Aimee Semple MacPherson, understood this as well (so do Ron Popiel, George W. Bush, and any number of others). It’s what this country is all about. Get used to it, people. Say what you will of Gene Scott, but he was the quintessential American, and he played it for all he was worth. Whether you or I approved of how he did it, he cared not a whit. And he would tell some of us we’re just jealous because we don’t have the balls to do what he did. I know I’m at least a bit jealous, because I had all the requisite “window dressing” that Scott possessed—I just never had the courage to use it.
Gene Scott was a uniquely American phenomenon. His passing is to be noted and his work remembered, for good or ill.
Tsarevich Alexei
63 · Posted by: pleasantvalleyboy on July 22, 2005 12:22 AM
i first saw dr.scott on tv in the late seventy’s and was blown away by his
bible teaching. this was when he was teaching the book of hebrews and i have never seen or heard anyone as brilliant.
i have audio tapes of some of those programs as he stood before the blackboard and illustrated during his lectures. he was on, i believe for an hour and he taught almost all of this
hour and was coherent, knowledgeable and
i was absolutely amazed. he was very serious and spoke with authority. he did ask for support for his ministry
but did it in a dignified manner and only for a few minutes of his telecast.
i learned more about scripture from him
than any bible teacher that i have ever
heard. his teaching was bible based, convincing, unusual, and complex but no one could deny his christianity. i knew in my spirit that i was watching someone who comes along once in a lifetime and who knew more about the bible than anyone i have known and was able to communicate it to other folks
if they would listen with their minds open. he was my hero !!!
64 · Posted by: JesusH8sBlasphemers on October 16, 2005 07:56 PM
Gene Scott stole from rich & poor & gave to Gene & Pastor Melissa Scott, Barbie Bridges! The con goes on! She
begs & cajoles for bucks in her thong
or you’re gonna go to hell!
65 · Posted by: cheryl on October 16, 2005 08:00 PM
Hi, I worked for Gene Scott and Melissa Scott for five years before seeing the light. Richard, you are right on in your money worshipping ways of the Scotts.There is one set of
rules of conduct for the little people, and quite another for the
opulent living, abusive pastors.
Most of the intelligent ones have or
are abandoning ship, closer to God,
not falling away from faith as they
accuse, just to help guilt on true
Christians who detest their greed.
66 · Posted by: JFK JR on December 6, 2005 08:58 PM
BOOK OF HOAKSTERS
CHAPTER:7 VERSE:11
See my profit DR.LOVELESS
For I have given unto him ladies,limos,learjets,luxury
satellites,mansions,show horses
and Cuban cigars with which to puff
himself up
Also many fools with which
to magnify himself.
YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS
NOT BY THEIR SUITS!
YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THE LOVE
THEY HAVE ONE FOR ANOTHER!
67 · Posted by: JFK JR on December 6, 2005 10:12 PM
Come and listen to a story about a man named Eugene
Nasty old preacher always acting mean
Then one day while puffin a cigar
He thought to himself,hey Im a preaching superstar
Self appointed that is, Selfrighteous,Egomaniacil
Well the next thing ya know old Genes a millionaire
Robbing his congregation just seemed downright more
than fair
Said Californy is the place I oughta be
So he married a porn acctress and moved to Beverly
Hills that is
Swimmin pools,movie stars
Well now its time to say goodbye to Gene and all his
kin
And they would like to thank you folks for all the
money you’ve sent in.
Your all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin help of his nasty’ole personality
Charlitin that is,Watch a while,Send your money in
Ya all git on the phone now ya hear
68 · Posted by: DD on December 21, 2005 03:48 AM
Dr. Eugene Scott was the living word or God—-however mankind is to understand—-and whatever sinners believe is nothing but the likes of sin….we have to learn and understand the word of GOD to revere his message…grace be to those who understand…fear God, and believe his message….Amen!
69 · Posted by: yosemity on January 20, 2006 07:30 PM
He will spend eternity in a A—holes Anonymous meeting.Hi my names eUgene and I’m the worlds biggest AHOLE!
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My thanks,
Richard

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