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Thomas Van Orden

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The very odd case Thomas Van Orden who sued the state of Texas for displaying a ten commandments monument on a government building. He may make it to the Supreme Court if he can find the money.

Inside, a homeless man with tired eyes works at a corner carrel in the basement amid his belongings — a duffel bag with a broken zipper, reading glasses he found in a parking lot, chicken-scratch notes sullied with splashes of instant coffee. His carefully parted hair and striped shirt contrast with his stained teeth and dirty fingernails. Armed with scraps of paper and pens he digs out of the trash, he's been here for two years, trying to define, once and for all, the boundaries of a governmental endorsement of religion. ...

He survives on food stamps and sleeps in his tent in the woods, nestled in a well-heeled Austin neighborhood that he travels to by bus. He won't discuss its location, saying he must protect himself from his unwitting neighbors and drug addicts who would steal his tent.

Scott Gold, Los Angeles Times: A Most Unusual Lawyer

Comments

I'm working on a documentary about the seperation between church and state adn I'm very interested in Scott Gold's article about Mr. Van Orden. For some reason thie LA TImes no longer carries the article in its archive. Do you know anywhere I can read this article? Please reply to my personal email flinch@flash.net thanks S
thomas van orden thinks that hell has a exit door.he's old, the only heaven he'll ever knows is where he is right now. atheist? make sure you are right because regrets never comes first. He rose on the 3rd day and now, He's coming down. atheist, what proof do you have? state vs religion? the state owes alot from God. america's way of life in the earlier times was base on the teachings of the holy bible. The God's righteous way.
To the above comment: Get your facts straight. As a Christian, I find it very disturbing to hear people like you making comments that show that you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about-it makes the rest of us look like ignorant fools. This country was founded by a group of men who believed in the ideals of the Enlightenment. It was not founded upon the Bible, or Christianity, or any religion for that matter. Yes, the framers expressed a belief in God, but they would never have tolerated the state's endorsement of one God over another, or any God for that matter. We Christian's do not need the help of the state, and in fact government involvement in religion, even if it endorses our own, is a dangerous situation. If you want to keep the religious liberty that is such an important part of what makes America great, don't let the government get involved.
Carolyn, Since you are a "christian", perhaps you've read Matthew 7:21-29 which reads: 21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord!' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?' 23 Then I will announce to them, 'I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!' If you have not read this, be sure to familiarize yourself with this passage while you're here on earth, because you're sure to hear it again in eternity. Our founding fathers would roll over in their graves after reading that pathetic excuse for a "christian" rebuttal. You should really be ashamed of yourself. A warning to all: dig into the historical beliefs of our founding fathers yourself. What you will find will amaze you. In many cases, not only did they believe in God, but they actually believed on the name of Jesus. And one more warning...beware of wolves in sheepskin.

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Richard